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America: Love it or live in New England [10th Jan. 2009|16:04]
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Went out to Harvard Square to have my hair cut and get my first taste of Obama disillusionment. The proprietors of the shop are a gay couple (legally married since 2004 under Massachusetts law) and were not too chuffed about Obama's choice of Rev Rick Warren to give the invocation at the Presidential Inauguration.

A quick recap for those not following the sideshow issue: Rev Warren is the founder and senior pastor of the Saddleback Church in California, which happens to be the fourth largest church in the US. He was one of the most vocal supporters of Proposition 8, which overturned the legalisation of gay marriage in California. He has also publicly equated gay marriage with incest.

Naturally they feel a sense of betrayal, which of course I understand and sympathise with, but in no way was I surprised. It is a common misperception among people in New England that we are in fact part of the USA. I can assure you that no one living west of Port Chester is so confused. Our presence within the Union is tolerated, not embraced, so long as we know our place and keep our filthy gay marriages and leprous ideas to our own side of the fence.
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[User Picture]From: lyonesse
2009-01-11 17:09 (UTC)

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the way i see it is, rev. warren (whom i will gleefully hiss at) is giving an invocation, not being given a cabinet position. i'm planning to spend the whole darn day watching the festivities, and i'll be looking good and hard for what the people who will actually be around after inauguration day have to say about queer folks before i draw further conclusions.

that said, we started all that crazy revolutionary shit in the 1700s too.
[User Picture]From: blipvert
2009-01-11 21:28 (UTC)

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that said, we started all that crazy revolutionary shit in the 1700s too.

That was a neat trick, eh? I wonder if we can still do it.
From: frotz
2009-01-11 17:36 (UTC)

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Expressing pre-election doubts about a popular candidate seems to work about as well as expressing prenuptial doubts about someone's fiance.

Which comment is not made in the spirit of "I told you so" (I'm certainly not endorsing the competition), but more as a general observation of human nature and the ubiquity of unrealistic expectations as soon as emotions get involved.

The problem is that strong (however irrational) emotions are what gets out the vote; "Vote for our guy, he's likely to make you sad in ways which are slightly less personally objectionable" isn't much of a motivator. (Nor, however, can I offer an alternative to our (more or less) democracy which is likely to work any better. I'll argue at length for a federal government of limited powers such that this didn't matter so much in the first place, but while I won that battle some 225 years ago, I lost it again 70-odd years ago.)
[User Picture]From: marmota
2009-01-11 18:11 (UTC)

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Much as I like living in our Big Blue Bubble, I put considerable effort into not drinking the local kool-aid so as to keep in touch with the real world. I don't *like* the real world, but I'd rather be unhappy than deluded.

It's funny; during the election, there were a number of mentions, particularly in the press, of "A Raisin in the Sun". I suspect many of them were by journalists who looked up "black playwrights/history", saw the title was a nice turn of phrase that was well known as both a line from a poem and the title of a play, and likely stopped there... but Hansberry's "The Sign in Sydney Brustein's Window" would've been a much more appropriate, if less flattering, reference.

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From: idiomagic
2009-01-11 18:15 (UTC)

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[User Picture]From: rmd
2009-01-11 19:04 (UTC)

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i'm just looking forward to just disagreeing and being mildly grumpy at my government instead of the adrenal-overloading unpleasantness of the pst 8 years.
From: speedingslug
2009-01-11 19:54 (UTC)

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[User Picture]From: cmeckhardt
2009-01-11 20:43 (UTC)

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Hey, somebody else who says "chuffed"!

And, um, yeah. One of my favorite bloggers wrote a post before the election entitled "Obama is not a fucking progressive". It's true.
[User Picture]From: skreeky
2009-01-11 23:12 (UTC)

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I'll be happy to have a president that doesn't want to ACTUALLY IMPRISON my husband for being a decent human being.

After the last 8 years, my standards are pretty low.

[User Picture]From: chhotii
2009-01-12 00:37 (UTC)

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Yeah, what skreeky said and what rmd said.

I mean, Obama is no hamster, but better to have a government in the political middle than one at the far right looney edge.
[User Picture]From: blipvert
2009-01-12 01:17 (UTC)

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Well, of course it is better, but that's not the point.

The point is that the far right looney edge gets pandered to, because they are the authentic Americans, and we never will be, because we aren't. And what the country west of PC thinks of as centrist is ever so barely on the good side of tolerable for us.